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Poster: dead-head_Monte Date: May 7, 2009 10:46am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: perfect pitch anyone? -- this '69 St Stephen from The Ark needs help

My pitch and ear training sucks. And I can't play or sing one note. Nor can I dance worth a damn or have any sense of good timing. I know a few things about good sound. I'm a techie. I can usually identify, troubleshoot, and solve most problems in pro audio and pro video environments in the field or on the computer. So now this Dead-head has been given a box of ancient Dead tapes and he's just circulated the first recording -- several tracks containing sources missing from the SBD at The Ark - April 23, 1969. This was seeded a few days ago at LL. Thank you sir!

I grabbed the new source and processed, edited, and patched this show on May 4. I seeded it at eTree. The new source is a dub of the SBD. A few people are saying the pitch is off. I'm guessing it must be off pitch by more than just an itty-bit slow. CM quote on May 5, "I've already patched these 2 sources together and did some pitch correction on the new source. My version will be uploaded shortly."

Samplitude is a great audio mastering platform. CM is a pro with it. I'm still a newbie (using "educational" warez). My previous few uses were dismally poor choices for audio mastering workflows. I did all my work exclusively using wave editing only. Duh, the VIP mode was built for mastering. This '69 Ark patch is my 1st time using VIP. I have everything laid out perfectly in VIP for resolving the pitch issue here. Samplitude has an excellent Resampling / Time Stretching / Pitch Shifting facility.

Since we are a music community here, I was thinking maybe several of you have excellent pitch, or even perfect pitch. Samplitude's Pitch Shifting processor increments in half steps, at a resolution of 100ths of a half step. Somebody give us the correct number to shift up, and we're done here. Wild guess = CM and others are listening to it and they are quietly debating this number right now.

PaceMaker plug-in for WinAmp
pacemaker_main.png

PaceMaker is a free plug-in module for WinAmp player that controls how the music sounds as it's playing. That is, PaceMaker is able to...

Speed up or slow down the music tempo without affecting the music key (pitch)
Change the music key (pitch) without affecting the tempo
Change the music "speed" (playback rate) as if vinyl records were played at higher or lower speeds than rated
Do all of these at the same time.

Here is a vbr MP3 copy of a patched St Stephen for you to analyze. It is temporarily now available on my web site. The file name is "gd69-04-23d1t04.mp3." Feel free to d/l and try playing it in WinAmp w/ PaceMaker pitch correction.

d1t04 St Stephen is patched w/ new source at 01:33 - 02:41 (end). 01:33 is where the vocals begin. This is the edit point that differentiates the old source from the new source. 00:00 - 01:33 is the old source. Feel free to chime in with a diagnosis. I'm on the sidelines while CM is on this case. But I could volunteer again if we have consensus on this.

charliemiller87@earthlink.net

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Poster: William Tell Date: May 7, 2009 6:31pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: perfect pitch anyone? -- this '69 St Stephen from The Ark needs help

Oh jeeezzzz, Monte--I am the last person that you want to involve in this...I will say that this tune defn needs your help, and what I was able to briefly access with my screwed up system at work attempting to run this on some obscure audio program, fits what the other two mentioned: it seemed slow.

Good luck with it!

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Poster: jglynn1.2 Date: May 7, 2009 12:24pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: perfect pitch anyone? -- this '69 St Stephen from The Ark needs help

To my far from perfect ears it definitely sounded like the patch is slower than the first part. That is I heard what sounded like when the tape starts to jam up in an old cassette. I did not dl and listen in winamp I just clicked on your link and it played in quicktime.

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Poster: JC Edwards Date: May 7, 2009 1:56pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: perfect pitch anyone? -- this '69 St Stephen from The Ark needs help

I have to agree. The patched section sounds as if it is a half key lower.

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Poster: sambonk2 Date: May 7, 2009 12:36pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: perfect pitch anyone? -- this '69 St Stephen from The Ark needs help

its is slow..from 1:33 on..it is slown down....100% man.....